At 08:32 PM 10/5/03 -0400, Stephanie wrote:
>on 10/5/03 8:19 PM, Diane Duncan at duncan@volcano.net profoundly spewed
>forth their very articulate thoughts:
>
> > I have a gross page which might be helpful (if only for pity), and
> > I'll upload it and send the link.
>No problem Diane... When the smoke clears, holler! ;)

<http://www.volcano.net/~duncan/pages_in_works/index1005a.htm>
Yes, I know the menu images (actually, I'm aiming for color changes
only) don't work. The uploaded pathway directory pointing labeling
whatsit is incorrect. Also, for sanity's sake, I'm not addressing
anything NN4. For now, anyway.

>First question -- do you want this to be fluid or fixed? If it's fixed do
>you want it to center or stay left aligned? This will greatly affect what
>we're gonna do here. :) Depending on your answers, you may not need any
>wrapper at all.

Keep in mind that I'm not a terminology purist *yet*, so I'd like
it to be fluid. :) That is to say, I'd like the right side to expand
and contract with the browser window. The menu doesn't want to.
I think I read in the MM2 manual that it won't.(Puts a slant on my design
goal, but I'm not married to that goal)

> > -header
> > sits flush against body wrapper, browser window expands to the right
> but
> > doesn't affect the size of the header
>
>Meaning, it gets wider but not taller?

The page gets wider, but the header doesn't resize.

> > -mainnav --Use MM2 horizontal tab, basic;
> > sits right beneath header
>
>Got that...
>
> > -content text is within confines of relative tab of mainnav
>
>Don't understand this... "relative tab of mainnav?" What's that mean?

On the MM2 menu tabs, when the visitor clicks the tab, say, "Meet",
the Meet tab opens to a page, rather than sublinks, and the page boundaries
are confined to the size of the tab (visualized by me - a child of the
paper
world - as an index card sort of)

> > -footer sits right beneath content and is centered
>
>Got this...
>
> > I need a wrapper to hold everything in place. So, is the wrapper a
> class
> > of element body, which then makes all the other parts subclasses of
> > wrapper??????
> > (I've been doing tutorials and how-tos for eons and now psychosis has
> set
> > in. If I see another Let's start with h1 I'll shoot myself)
>
>Shhhhh... Calm down. ;)

:)
For the record, I went back to Foundations yesterday to see if I could
discover what's blocking my brain...P7 has such good stuff...but my
Dreamweaver started acting squirrelly and, closet drama queen that I
am, I just shut it all down and kicked in a kitchen cabinet instead of
doing anything rash. Rage should only be directed at inanimate objects.
So now, it's merely my wallet that pays the price :/
I feel better, but I got a splinter in the process...

>OK... The wrapper, if needed, will just be an id'd div... Something like
>this: <div id="wrapper"> ... The selector will just start like this:
>#wrapper { rules }

Got it. I've not fiddled with the page (link at top of this email). I'm
sending it before doing anything to it, for continuity.

>No need to make it a child of the body (though technically, in the cascade
>it is)... You will simply write ID's for divs for the most part... And
>then
>redefine your page elements... Whatever's left over (or whatever selector
>you might need more than once) you'll write as classes.

Got it :)
Are you familiar with Top Style? I have the pro edition and I've been
trying to make sense of it. I think I get css syntax when it's written on
a blank piece of paper or in a text editor, but the way
TS shows the code seems different to how I write it. Not in terms of
rendering the code, but in terms of listing the styles -- elements,
classes, ids.

Thanks!
Diane






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